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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 1 month ago #6209

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I was banned by Wild_Elephant for spawn kill. I was way out of spawn, Wiold Elephant was campinh on perimeter of spawn shooting at me so I returned fire and killed him. I was down near the beach at the tim.
Now I had enjoyed playing in SoV for a long time going back to KOS time and have many good friends who I would meet up with and play the game. I feel I was wrongly banned as it was in self defence and would appreciate another chance.
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 1 month ago #6210

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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 1 month ago #6211

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I'm not sure who you are, Colonel_Roosta, Smiling_Roosta, Gallic Roosta, Roosta-Sauce, Royal Roosta, ROOsta_Nam, Cpt. ROOsta, II-RoosTa, RoosTa_ZA, roosta... but I don't have any record of banning you. Temporary or Permanently. And if you played in KoS and SoV on this server, you must know that spawn camp/spawn rape is against server rules. So most likely you got warned/kicked for killing me in spawn as I was warning campers. While you're here, please check out the boundary map in BC2. I know it's frustrating to be shot by cheaters, but that's why I police the rules for everyone. You will be warned, then kicked, then if you do it again, you will be temporarily banned (usually first offense, it's just a few minutes) then I keep screenshots of the temp bans, and if you get three, and continue to break the rules, you will be Permanently banned. We try to give a lot of leeway, and only ban for those who obviously are there to create a problem. Sorry if it inconvenienced you!
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 1 month ago #6217

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I am Major Brainhurt and all due respects I had no intention of spawn killing on the said day, but when I had been shot by you from your spawn I had no option but to shoot you. It was not done for a cheap kill. I would appreciate another chance if that is possible?
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 1 month ago #6218

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(NOTE: I'm going to write this out, because I may refer to it in the future, and will definitely have the Admins read it. We also have been cracking down on our rules in our BF3 server about multiple ignores of our rules pertaining to being on the ROOF/CRANE in TDM. )

OK, as to your case:
I'm sorry, but I'm a Commander in SoV, and was an admin in KOS for many years. I do not, will not, and never have broken our own rules. I did not shoot you from spawn. Sorry, you're wrong. That's the oldest excuse in the book, and I am VERY careful to not break our own rules. As a matter of fact, many times you will see me with very few kills and 50+ deaths because I'm killed while warning campers in spawn by base rapers. I represent SoV, and the Commanders are charged with overseeing the Admins. My history with KOS and SoV speaks for itself. I do not break the rules.

So, here's the deal. When someone base camps or base rapes I kill them in game, with an automated warning from the Procon Admin Panel ( such as "Do Not Base Rape" and "Do Not Camp From Spawn/Base"). Most of the time, that suffices. However, many times people come back and argue with me, or call me names, etc. I do explain it initially, but given the amount of offenders, I don't spend a lot of time explaining it over and over again. It's not rocket science, after all.

If they go right back to breaking our rules again, this time I KICK them from our server with the same automated warning. Usually when they lose their kills, they get the message. But I take the time to go though the protocol of KILL/WARN first, and then KICK/WARN second. Believe me, when like 20 people are doing it at once, it gets EXTREMELY tedious.

TEMP BAN 1: If they come back AGAIN, and do the same thing, they get a Temporary ban. This is the FIRST temporary ban. (I keep records and a screenshot of all Temp Bans). NOTE: I usually make the temp ban a short period of time (as you can see in your evidence), in the initial temp bans. I'm not out to keep you from playing on our server. Just to play by our rules.

TEMP BAN 2: If they come back again, after the temp ban is expired, and STILL DO IT AGAIN, they get another Temp ban. This is the SECOND temporary ban. (I keep records and a screenshot of all Temp Bans).

TEMP BAN 3: If they come back again, after the second temporary ban is expired, and STILL DO IT AGAIN, they get their final and THIRD temporary ban. (I keep records and a screenshot of all Temp Bans).

PERMANENT BAN: If they come back again, after the THIRD TEMPORARY BAN is expired, and STILL DO IT AGAIN, they get a PERMANENT BAN. And I post this with each of the 3 screenshots as evidence. NOTE: This means you've been warned by KILL multiple times, warned by KICK multiple times, warned by TEMP BAN 3 times, and STILL decided to come back and do it again. Hence the PERMANENT BAN.

Looking back at your evidence form, this is what is posted:





You play in BC2 all the time, and have watched me warn,kill, kick, and temp ban others for the same thing, and you've complained about others camping and raping. So you know the rules, pretty obviously. And you can see here, that I had the option to Temp ban you for much longer than 2 or 3 minutes... so I've already given you a break.

So why should I remove the permanent ban after all this work and aggravation that you put me (and others in the server) through? I'll be glad to consider your defense, but I'm pretty careful to give people plenty of chances before it goes this far. So please write why you think the perm ban should be removed, and I'll send it on to our Leaders to consider. So far, your argument holds no water with me, so my ban stays.

FYI: I know it's not popular with some players (mainly those who continue to flaunt our rules, and badmouth the server), but these are the same rules we had in KOS. The BC2 server was out of control, because it was not administrated properly in KOS, although the rules were the same. There are precious few BC2 servers left (and those who will Administrate them), and we wish to have one that is clean of cheaters, hackers, and rule breakers. We have the rules posted, and they go by CONSTANTLY both in the chat, and the YELL that goes across the center of the screen. Many players have given me and the other admins credit for being stricter on our rules... and I try to be fair.... hence the three screenshots of Temp bans evidence rule, so it is very clear that the offender has been given every chance.

Have a nice day.
Last Edit: 9 years 1 month ago by Wild Elephant.
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6220

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Look, its your call but I saw what I saw and I believe you were shooting at me from your base. This is not shown in your "screen shots" so I have no proof. My reasons I have ststed are all I have so if you are set on keeping my ban .... so be it, but I think it is unfair. I have never until this day bad mouthed KOS or SoV so its up to you.
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6225

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So basically you're calling me a liar? lol. I don't have the slightest interest in sitting in base breaking our own rules, as I painstakingly explained below. And secondly, you don't shoot into base for ANY reason. I explain that over, and over, and over again in game by saying, 'DONT SHOOT INTO OR OUT OF SPAWN'. So on top of calling me a liar, you admitted here to doing exactly what you got banned for. - you know, had you apologized and shown some ability to own up to ignoring the rules for so long, I might have considered give you a 23rd chance. Case closed.

Note to self: Don't call the judge a liar, or admit to the offense.
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6227

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I don't see how you think this is unfair... The screenshots show that you were in violation of the rules and you where given a reason when kicked. So, is it fair to Wild_Elephant that you completely ignore him?

Credit to Troki
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6234

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ok that's fine, I do call u a liar, sorry but it is what it is. I think you are a lightweight and are more interested in defending ur modest K/D stats than true justis. I think you are a liability to a good server..... you were behind a rock in your own base shooting (not all that successfully at the enemy. Have a great life little fella, at least I know I was telling the truth.
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6239

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People care about K/D's on a 6 year old game?
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6240

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It obviously is to Wild_Elephant, sad but true. If you look at his K/D you can understand why it is important to improve it!
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6241

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Well considering I know him far better than you, I can tell you he could care less about it. He spends most of his time in the server keeping it clean, and his verdict has been rendered. I think we can lock this up now.

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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6243

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Petty tyrants come in many forms. Castaneda divides the tyrant into three subclasses. The first, "petty tyrants," or pinches tiranos, are fearsome, terror-inspiring individuals, often physically or emotionally abusive, who wreak havoc on our lives simply by existing. The second class of tyrants, pinches tiranitos, or "little petty tyrants," persecute and inflict misery on the lives of others, but generally don't cause irreparable damage. They may storm out of the room now and then, or deliberately create problems, but they don't threaten the overall safety of the community. The third class Castaneda calls repinches tiranitos - "small-fry petty tyrants," or pinches tiranitos chiquititos - "teensy-weensy petty tyrants." A number of this type of petty tyrant generally exists in any community. Whereas the presence of "small-fry petty tyrants" is disturbing, even highly irritating sometimes, they cause problems only by disturbing our peace of mind, or interrupting the flow of communion between community members. It is the latter two types (not the seriously abusive ones) that we will deal with here.

"Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it? What weakens us is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellow men. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone. The new seers recommended that every effort should be made to eradicate self-importance from the lives of warriors. I have followed that recommendation, and much of my endeavors with you has been geared to show you that without self-importance we are invulnerable." -Don Juan (The Fire From Within)
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 4 weeks ago #6244

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Roosta wrote:
Look, its your call but I saw what I saw and I believe you were shooting at me from your base. This is not shown in your "screen shots" so I have no proof. My reasons I have ststed are all I have so if you are set on keeping my ban .... so be it, but I think it is unfair. I have never until this day bad mouthed KOS or SoV so its up to you.
Regards

Believe is the keyword here. There's a difference between believing and knowing. There's nothing to support your accusation.
ok that's fine, I do call u a liar, sorry but it is what it is. I think you are a lightweight and are more interested in defending ur modest K/D stats than true justis. I think you are a liability to a good server..... you were behind a rock in your own base shooting (not all that successfully at the enemy. Have a great life little fella, at least I know I was telling the truth

What would he gain from this? I mean it's just evidence gathering and more "paper work" to fill out, dealing with troublemakers. I'm sure he'd rather be playing a game than banning someone. Why would you bring his K/D up? Has nothing at all to do with YOUR situation. Your case and argument are poor and quite petty if I might add.


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pinches tiranitos chiquititos
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Banned for shooting into enemy spawn 9 years 3 weeks ago #6256

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Thanks Wolven! A bad K/D for an admin is a testament to them getting killed over and over by cheaters/rapes while trying to admin the game, and so doesn't reflect their playing ability at all. Like all loyal admins, we'd love to just play the game fairly, and that's why we do what we do for no pay, even when you have to deal with this sort of abuse from teensy weensy petty tyrants.
"I only regret that I have one K/D to give for my server."
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